Comments on: Looking Back on My Time in Vocational Ministry and Nonprofit Work http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/ Will Phillips' Weight Loss Blog Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:24:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Katie Bray http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1056 Katie Bray Wed, 13 May 2009 17:17:55 +0000 http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/#comment-1056 Hey, Will! I'm really glad you wrote again, and I hadn't clicked on the RSS feed, so I didn't know you had written more and the website changed! Jesse actually went though the same spiritual/job transformation you did recently too. If you would have asked him, he would have said that he was going to do full time ministry/evangelist work. He's gotten screwed over and over by a lot of churches that just didn't care and wanted cheap (free) labor to do their dirty work, and he's been getting the brunt of that for years, with nothing to show but bitterness. It's a hard hump to get over (I've gotten only a fraction of that done to me, so I know it's gotta be hard for people like you guys) but we've found a church that we absolutely love and feel comfortable with now, and I'm glad that everything is looking up for you too. You're a great guy, and you look absolutely fantastic! Hey, Will! I’m really glad you wrote again, and I hadn’t clicked on the RSS feed, so I didn’t know you had written more and the website changed!

Jesse actually went though the same spiritual/job transformation you did recently too. If you would have asked him, he would have said that he was going to do full time ministry/evangelist work. He’s gotten screwed over and over by a lot of churches that just didn’t care and wanted cheap (free) labor to do their dirty work, and he’s been getting the brunt of that for years, with nothing to show but bitterness. It’s a hard hump to get over (I’ve gotten only a fraction of that done to me, so I know it’s gotta be hard for people like you guys) but we’ve found a church that we absolutely love and feel comfortable with now, and I’m glad that everything is looking up for you too.

You’re a great guy, and you look absolutely fantastic!

]]> By: Ripx180 http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-985 Ripx180 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:19:48 +0000 http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/#comment-985 Dude??? where the heck are you at? There is still weight to be lost. Dude??? where the heck are you at? There is still weight to be lost.

]]> By: Carrie http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-972 Carrie Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:02:26 +0000 http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/#comment-972 Hey Will, I read you on this, and totally understand the reactive thing. I feel like I've been living "reactively" since changing careers, too, as much of the "pressure" I had put on myself was just suddenly gone, but then too so was control of my life as I saw it. Good post. Haven't had too many shares of bad pastors yet, but I've certainly been encountering the not-so-great youth ministers, and that is scary. Recently from Carrie: <a href="http://afterburneffect.blogspot.com/2009/03/being-good.html" rel="nofollow">Being "Good"</a> Hey Will,
I read you on this, and totally understand the reactive thing. I feel like I’ve been living “reactively” since changing careers, too, as much of the “pressure” I had put on myself was just suddenly gone, but then too so was control of my life as I saw it.

Good post. Haven’t had too many shares of bad pastors yet, but I’ve certainly been encountering the not-so-great youth ministers, and that is scary.

Recently from Carrie: Being "Good"

]]> By: One80 Fitness & Health http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-939 One80 Fitness & Health Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:54:54 +0000 http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/#comment-939 Wow. Heavy post. Good luck on your weight loss. Keep up the great work. Wow. Heavy post. Good luck on your weight loss. Keep up the great work.

]]> By: Losing Waist http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-915 Losing Waist Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:22:44 +0000 http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/#comment-915 I stop by your blog to read every few weeks... this was especially interesting for me to read. I don't find that a lot of people who have left the ministry are content with their decision. I too left the ministry in 2003 (fled the ministry is a better statement), and found myself in so much turmoil over my decision because I related it to faith... what I recently found is that it was not my faith that had changed, but my tolerance of hypocritical, narcissistic church establishments. I lost my network of friends and support, but I gained freedom from the human expectations placed on faith... I am so happy/relieved/content (now) that I removed myself from that life! My story is long and sad... it is really sad for me to talk about! I also hesitate to talk much about it- I really would like to address it! Thanks for the motivation. I appreciate reading about your story, and seeing that you are content in your choice. Recently from Losing Waist: <a href="http://losingwaist.blogspot.com/2009/04/battle-between-id-and-super-ego-i-dont.html" rel="nofollow">The battle between ID and Super Ego... I don't have much of an EGO...</a> I stop by your blog to read every few weeks… this was especially interesting for me to read. I don’t find that a lot of people who have left the ministry are content with their decision. I too left the ministry in 2003 (fled the ministry is a better statement), and found myself in so much turmoil over my decision because I related it to faith… what I recently found is that it was not my faith that had changed, but my tolerance of hypocritical, narcissistic church establishments. I lost my network of friends and support, but I gained freedom from the human expectations placed on faith… I am so happy/relieved/content (now) that I removed myself from that life!

My story is long and sad… it is really sad for me to talk about! I also hesitate to talk much about it- I really would like to address it! Thanks for the motivation. I appreciate reading about your story, and seeing that you are content in your choice.

Recently from Losing Waist: The battle between ID and Super Ego… I don’t have much of an EGO…

]]> By: Dave http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-913 Dave Fri, 10 Apr 2009 04:52:03 +0000 http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/#comment-913 Sorry For not being more sensitive when I could have made a difference. I went through the same thing when I was your age, I gave up before I got started in vocational ministry, and it was for the exact reasons you quit. Only I gained weight because I got married. Sorry For not being more sensitive when I could have made a difference.

I went through the same thing when I was your age, I gave up before I got started in vocational ministry, and it was for the exact reasons you quit.

Only I gained weight because I got married.

]]> By: Will http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-912 Will Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:14:02 +0000 http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/#comment-912 Thanks, Rip. I was hesitant to ramble on about this, as to not alienate anyone based on their own religious leanings, but it's a big part of who i am, even if I'm typically not way out in the open about it. Plus, a lot of random folks I know in real life apart from the merry old health/weight loss blogosphere read this, so I kinda owed it to them. Thanks, Rip. I was hesitant to ramble on about this, as to not alienate anyone based on their own religious leanings, but it’s a big part of who i am, even if I’m typically not way out in the open about it. Plus, a lot of random folks I know in real life apart from the merry old health/weight loss blogosphere read this, so I kinda owed it to them.

]]> By: Ripx180 http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-910 Ripx180 Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:26:49 +0000 http://4xlt.willphillips.org/2009/04/looking-back-on-my-time-in-vocational-ministry-and-nonprofit-work/#comment-910 Wow Will this is a pretty heavy post. I have never been a super heavy church goer but I do have my beliefs. I have seen the surface of a few of the things you touched on (part of my reason I dont go regularly). Sorry to see you going through so much turmoil personally. You seem like a good man so I have no doubt you will find your way. Super glad to see your weight coming back down. Your obviously doing what you need to be doing. stay diligent! Wow Will this is a pretty heavy post. I have never been a super heavy church goer but I do have my beliefs. I have seen the surface of a few of the things you touched on (part of my reason I dont go regularly). Sorry to see you going through so much turmoil personally. You seem like a good man so I have no doubt you will find your way.

Super glad to see your weight coming back down. Your obviously doing what you need to be doing. stay diligent!

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